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. ♪ gerri: tonight, no clarity from congress from the fiscal cliff. will the american people end up being the big loser? and with the lame-duck congress back in session, new warning about rules and regulations that it your way. welcome to "the willis report." hello, everybody. the white house trying to save face by saying it is wrong to think about talks to avert the thistle class have broken down, but the evidence is mounting. the president pushing tax checks on those making over 250,000. all that promise, the second meeting between president and congressional leaders is an even scheduled yet. senate majority leader harry reid refusing to put cuts on the table and saying it is republicans who are holding up negotiations. should we expect to go right over the cliff? let's start by talking about whether it is impossible to get some kind of thoroughgoing resolution of this issue. >> at think it is, but we have to be working on a full-time. the president needs to be here talking to members of congress and working out a big deal, meaning tax reform, and panama reform, and other spending contr
the fiscal cliff scheduled for tomorrow, but, guess what? the president will not be attending it, secretary tim geithner will. regardless of the no-show tomorrow, president obama is hopeful to get a deal done by christmas, not inspiring confidence for pushing small businesses as key democratic leaders refuse to put entitlements on the table. for more on all of this, republican congressman langford of oklahoma. congressman, welcome back, always great to have you here. >> thank you very much. gerri: president with strong words for congress. here's what he had to say. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next wreer. right now, as we speak, congress can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. gerri: there's the president calling out congress. what do you have to say, congressman? >> yeah, here we go in the middle of this. the house passed all our tax things in april. we passed the sequestering documents in may. we waited for the senate since may to reciprocate on that. the
to talk about whether the fiscal cliff has had any impant on this business, and of course we'll talk about that relationship with sears. back to you. >> thank you very much. >>> is all that spending translating into green for investors? let's collection in with kayla tausche with a "market flash." >> interestingly enough, the retail sector is falling today in the red for most of the big retailers that had those discounts. also was not the big winner even on friday techwise. so the wig question is how much will these discounts actually eat into the potential margins from those blowout sales. if you look, courtney said that department stores were the biggest destination but macy's and nordstrom are two of the biggest laggards on the s&p. costco which had heavily discounted things like the nexus 7, also down today. >>> to congress now which is returning to deal with the biggest economic issue of the day -- that fiscal cliff. john harwood on whether lawmakers are getting any closer to a deal. >>> and coming up on closing bell, pet smart's ceo robert moran will join us live to discuss how his c
over the fiscal cliff. but only party we're talking about right now is the g.o.p., and they are. neil: why are they doing this? i know a close election, but, it is not as if they were just wiped off the face of the earth? what are they doing? >> i think there are a couple things here, dan and i were talking, if they go ahead, and go along with this, then they are setting a tone and putting themselves at risk for midterm elections, they can't afford to lose at this point politically. but i think they know, that if theyment long-term tax solutions, a simplification of the tax code if that i want to talk about entitlement reform they have to concede a bit. i think one thing that could help both sides if we had a well the more transparency in this conversation so it is not just republicans that are strong armed here. neil: you know, dan, you are closer to this than i will be, but i have to say between this concession of republicans to entertain what could be more substantial revenue hikes, so say nothing now of embracing the idea of suzanne rice -- susan rice hearing on the benghazi thing
-- can we avoid the fiscal cliff. can we get ourselves back on the right track, if you will, without raising taxes -- without getting rid of the bush tax cuts for the wealthy? >> i think -- it doesn't add up. you get about $750 billion from loopholes. that doesn't get you near -- >> bill: bill clinton said in charlotte, it is arithmetic. >> it's math. >> bill: right. you mentioned -- i want to come back -- the other thing the republicans have put on the table, of course, is entitlement. they will only consider new revenue if democrats come forth with entitlement reform. by entitlement reform, let's be honest. they mean getting rid of medicare, getting rid of medicaid. >> structural reforms. >> bill: and privatizing social security. >> it was good to hear yesterday jay carney the white house press secretary, i don't know if you were there. taking social security off the table. it's not a problem. it hasn't contributed to the deficit. that's off the table. they're open to medicare. they've been open to changing pr
a single share of stock even if he was guaranteed the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff. just wait until you hear who he thinks should be the treasury secretary. >> we'll begin of course with the deal of the day. conagra foods has agreed to acquire ralcorp for $5 billion. $90 a share in cash. 28% premium to the closing price on monday. kayla tausche reported on potential for a deal between the two companies back in 2011. it creates the largest private label food company in north america. this is a big deal. >> yes, it is. it's big in size in terms of what we've seen in this market. look how excited he is. and they finally got it done. it's been one as you pointed out that was around in 2011. they couldn't get it done. that is conagra. they walked away. ralcorp stock price fell dramatically. they split the post cereal division from ralcorp. the two trade separately. so you did have a company here that perhaps became a little more -- i wouldn't say vulnerable. not as if they were committed to selling. the board composition changed. you have had activist shareholder get on there. that was very
leader summit last week says that the looming fiscal cliff is already impacting his business. >> right now i'm not that bullish at all. in fact i'd say there's a great uncertainly that's just hanging over the entire economy because we're not confident that our guys can govern anymore. people like me just aren't hiring because we're not confident they can do it. >> well, the white house echoed that concern this morning. a new report says failing to act on the president's plan for middle class americans would freeze the economic recovery. obama's plan includes lower taxes on the first $250,000 earned by every american and tweaking the alternative minimum tax. the white house report estimates that consumer spending would fall by $200 million. now that's more than three times what consumers spent just over this entire holiday weekend. there could be a drag on a range of industries from cars and housing to restaurants and supermarkets, if congress can't reach a deal. and look, pocketbook issues are not the only problem here. carl levin, the democratic senator and chair of the armed services
." >>> president obama ramps up the sales pitch on his fiscal cliff picks. will public pressure push republicans into a deal. one leading house republican who happens to be a former pollster takes a very vocal position on what he thinks his party needs to do and to do now. >>> u.n. ambassador susan rice's attempt to smooth things over doesn't go over as well as she or the white house would have liked. guess who stepped out to vouch for her. none other than a retiring amigo, senator joe lieberman. >>> and new numbers on a hypothetical matchup for 2013 that would be sure to get some votes. what would happen if cory booker took on chris christie. that's not the only big 2013 news this morning on the campaign front. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 28, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. right to my first read of the morning. so is washington just running out the clock until about ten days before christmas when everyone smells the jet fuel and gets ready to cut a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff? some days it feels that way. the president is stepping up h
. >> if not, we go off the supposed cliff. >> the fiscal cliff or slope. the bump of various height. >> it's going to sell that fiscal cliff. >>> thelma and louise might need to make room in the car for the president of the united states. at the white house today, senior obama administration officials met with liberal leaders and union officials. "the washington post" reports that one told him after the meeting, quote, would the white house go off the cliff if it's between that and compromising their core principles? i was left with the impression that they would. illinois democratic senator dick durbin spoke today at the liberal center for american progress where he said this about the possibility of going off the cliff which fears of this show know is is really more of a curb than a cliff. >> some have called let's go over the cliff and watch what happens. we know if we're not careful, it will in fact stop economic growth and hurt everyone through every income category, particularly those most vulnerable. >> what he did not say is he must not go off the cliff. because the cliff is is pre
busy over the weekend. talking about the fiscal cliff. everyone comes back to work . wonder if they will get to work and cut the deals. republicans made it clear they are willing to budge when it comes to the 20 year pledge not to raise taxes that glover norquist had everyone sign before they took office. >> steve: grover norquist has hundreds of republicans to do that. clearly with the fiscal cliff comment and automatic spending cuts and taxes go up on everybody. something has to be done. the feeling is that it will happen two now. republicans have beenadament and said we can't raise taxes on anybody. and glover norquist said as long as you don't raise tax rates that is okay. and lindsay graham on that. >> i agree we shouldn't raise rates but i think grover is wrong to cap and buy down debt. what do you do with the money and i will violate the pledge for the good of the country only if the democrats do entitlement reform. >> gretchen: i think the pledge thing is good and bad. if you are a republican and believe that raising taxes is the wrong they think that and fine. but h
. >> now, here is the question. has president obama put this s fiscal cliff plan on the table. one member of the senate says it is time for president obama to tell america what this man is. that senator is pat toomey of pennsylvania. he is going to join us here in 25 minutes. next up is the republican party about to lose it's soul and principles over the fiscal cliff debate. why is nobody talking ip t inin media about spending cuts. let's talk to brent great to see you on the show. thank you for coming. let me start with this thought. over this fiscal cliff debate. nobody is cutting spending. everybody is talking about taxes. is the gop losing it's soul and principles? >> no one is being serious in it's debate. the fellow from adi is making sound statements. but he is whistling past the graveyard. there is no problem that the obama budget calls for spending giving us a deficit of $1 trillion per year as far as the eye can see. tax cuts didn't cause this. it is spending that caused this. you go to spending. you have the cpo itself is saying the only way to do this is getting obamacare out
the fiscal cliff. >> yes. >> there's a new one no tall, no water. two more songs. i'm like i can't see. >> no water? that's in sane! are they trying to kill people? >> did i tell you the other one? sweat is fat crying. >> i would just walk out right there. i can't deal with that crap. >> you have to keep your heart rate up, it's a test to see if you can make it through another song without towel or water. >> i don't need pithy sayings to keep my heart ray up. >> good morning everybody. u.n. ambassador susan rice is meeting with senators john mccain lindsey graham and kelly iop. they have been critical of her remarks in the aftermath of benghazi. she described that as a spontaneous attack based on the in tell she had from the intelligence community. there could be some substance to the plan that president obama plans to nominate her for secretary of state. she will meet with other lawmakers later this week. president obama has been unwaiving in his support of her calling republican attacks on her outrageous. >> according to official announcement, the president of mexico and the presiden
's time to work on the fiscal cliff. can both sides strike a bargain before everyone's tacks go up. we'll cover that with our headliners. senators dick durbin and lindsey graham. plus our powerhouse roundtable. matthew dowd, joe klein, ruth marcus, david sanger of "the new york times" and peggy noonan of "the wall street journal." >>> then ben affleck. >> you saw your parents killed? >> with war breaking out in congo, he's here live on what can be done to stop the fighting. >>> and -- >> i'm jonathan karl, i'm going to show you how this clipper will bring bipartisanship to washington. >>> hello, again. you just saw one small step for bipartisanship, is there more to come in washington? congress is back to work this week. top priority, a deal to block those automatic spending cuts and tax increases now set for january 1st, and some smart money is starting to bet that the president and congress will find a way to avoid that fiscal cliff. stocks up this week in anticipation of a deal with the dow clocking five straight of gains. and black friday consumer spending was down as well. now let
's good. thank you for that, dylan. >>> let's go to front-page politics. the fiscal cliff negotiations are set to take place this week. in washington today, we heard both sides staking out their positions. here's democratic senator carl levin on "meet the press." >> the key is whether the republicans will move away from the rigid position which has been the grover norquist pledge that they signed that they will not go away for additional revenues. >> the gop rejecting the decade-old pledge. here's what norquist said about cham bliss. >> the commitment that he made to the people of georgia was not to me. it was to the people of georgia that he would go to washington to reduce government spending and reform government, not raise taxes. if he wants to change his mind and become a tax increaser so we don't have to reform government, he needs to have that conversation with the people of georgia. >>> >> and new today, congressman peter king on the controversy. >> i agree with chambliss. if i were in congress in 1941, i would have signed al declaration of war against japan. i'm not going to d
-called fiscal cliff. >>> one of the most recognizable voices in hollywood lends his voice to a pro-same-sex marriage ad. >> freedom, justice and human dignity have always guided our journey toward a more perfect union. now across our country, we are standing together for the right of gay and lesbian americans. >> morgan freeman pointing out why he's behind what voters in three states did on election day. >>> and your $2 could be worth 425 million bucks. power ball reaching a new record. let's dream the dream together, shall we? shall we? "newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good morning to you. thank you so much for being with me on this monday morning. i'm carol costello. we begin with the so-called fiscal cliff. 36 days from the crisis. new signs of just how concerned lawmakers really are. more republican lawmakers now say they will work toward a compromise, even if they have to break a promise not to raise taxes. that promise, that pledge, the brain child of anti-tax activist grover norquist, a long-time power broker in the gop. but the vote faced its
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with senator tom coburn about the fiscal cliff, affordable care act and future of the republican party. the senator has written several books, including his latest. join our three-hour conversation with your calls, emails and tweets for medical doctor and senator tom coburn on book tv's "in depth" on c spanning 2. >> washington worked his way up and wept to harvard law school and went out west to illinois to galena where the industry was in its heyday. arrived by ship by stagecoach, by train and arrived on steamboat in this muddy mining town. boarded themselves in a log cabin and established themselves in a log cabin and worked his way up and became a very successful lawyer and got involved politically. ran for congress, served for eight terms and then befriended abraham lincoln, obviously from illinois and then grant. and as they were on the rise, washburn stayed with them as a close colleague during the civil war and after grant was elected president, he initially appointed washburn secretary of state and at that time, wash burn became very, very ill and his family feared for his lif
of pushing for immigration and fiscal cliff and saving up his capital there? >> reporter: well, it's clear the president is fond of susan rice. you saw that in the press conference after the election. he really forcefully defended her. you saw more passionate people had been waiting for from the president. if there's a time to push someone, the president believes is the best personed to the job, it's after you win the election in a pretty strong way. so the president, i think, if he wants to push her, now is the team to do it. it's interesting that so many senators such as john mccain and lindsey graham oppose her. policy-wise she's closer to them in terms of policy and intervention and human rights than, say, senator john kerry, for example. >> amanamanda, you referenced t press conference where the president went to bat for susan rice. let's actually take a listen to them. >> for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who this nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmurch her reputation is outrageous. when they
against the clock trying to reach an agreement on the fiscal cliff that is fast approaching. the president is trying to ramp up public pressure on congress to accept his ideas for debt reduction in. in the coming days he meets with small business owners, middle class taxpayers, around corporate leaders. friday he tried to recapture his winning spirit in pennsylvania touring a toy manufacturing plant. i don't think the event is in whoville but the republicans as grinch playbook is probably evident enough. to hear some of the president's team, they see this christmas going their way. >> i think we're going to get this done. i'm more positive than most. i'm heartened by many ever my senate republican colleagues who have stepped forward and basically said that their real oath is to america and not to a washington loppiest named grover norquist. >> it's actually true. some republicans have signaled a willingness to buck grover norquist and his anti-tax pledge and raise some new revenue. "the wall street journal" weighed in with a reasonable argument. president obama's re-election means the taxe
are headed for this fiscal cliff and we need to do something to resolve that. we have an opportunity here to lock in responsible fiscal policy over the next few years. i think we should be able to do both. >> ken, we're told that the president is meeting today with the head of mitt romney's favorite organization, the magnificent chamber of commerce which as we know produced some marvelous surveys that appeared to support him. he spoke with speaker boehner and harry reid over the weekend and yet no meeting date is set. what kind of outreach is going on behind the scenes? are you aware, ken, of any other relationships that are being developed at this moment to try to fend off the fiscal cliff? >> yeah. mostly what we're hearing about is that the staff level there are ongoing negotiations between the white house, between harry reid and the senate majority leader's office and john boehner's office, the house republicans. but so far what we've seen, at least in the principal, is really just highlighting the differences and how stark the differences are. yes, there have been some republicans wh
rose petal in the path of john kerry to be the secretary of state. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations the president trying to rally the middle class in favor of the tax increases on the rich, what is the next step in terms of the real key players which is the president and john boehner? i know they've been talking, there have been a lot of conversations on the phone. is there going to be a meeting? >> you know, andrea, i hesitates to make predictions but i would say that my guess we're probably in a similar place in 14 days as we are today, which is they're talking, the tax rates on the wealthy entitlement reform, these things are still on the table but we haven't had anything defintive. congress and washington in general works best and sometimes works only under a very tight deadline. i can't imagine anything getting done in the next 10 to 14 days, other than kind of the participants, the important participants getting together whether on the phone or in person to hash it out. i think we're looking at kind of closer to christmas rather than further from christmas for a deal if there
to say, raise taxes or lower spending or going off the fiscal cliff. where are you? and how do you feel about tinkering with medicare and medicaid? >> look, i think we've got to put aside all of the sacred cows and really got to be willing, as dick durbin said, sit down and negotiate and come up with a plan, a long-term plan that's balanced, that looks at the domestic side of the budget, the defense side, the mandatory programs, and the revenue side. and if we're willing to do that, then i think we can get an agreement. but i think to go to the tax issue that you were talking about earlier, there are really two issues there. one is the amount of revenue that needs to be raised. but the other question is a fairness question. and if we're asking people to accept the sacrifices that they're going to be making if we're cutting spending in areas that are going to really affect middle class families and others, then we've also got to be willing to ask those who are doing the best in this country to share in that sacrifice. and what i've heard from people in new hampshire is they're willing to
hope so. what i would like to do is to say that the fiscal cliff issue we have been talking about all they hear -- all week, is really important and we have to make progress right now towards a sustainable budget. a lot of experts sitting here about why that is important but based on our work there's a much broader competitiveness problem facing the u.s. right now. has been building for decades, it is not a recession, it has been building for decade-sapping the ability of the american economy to grow, and the average american to rise. to make the u.s. less competitive, less attractive for business, we go back to the fiscal cliff discussion over and over again because unless we get the economy really moving and growing in a long run, these budget problems will occur over and over again. we have identified eight areas where we find, these things would move the needle in a reasonable time frame, two or three or four years we start to see impact and there's quite bipartisan support. and the sustainable budget compromise. number 2, easing immigration now. we need a broader immigration refo
, but other way, the republicans are in motion over the fiscal cliff. the democrats are not moving. good morning, everyone, several leading republicans say they will put more tax revenue on the table. that's a shift. warren buffett says raise tax rates on incomes over a half million dollars, that's a shift. but the president and democrats are not moving and they still say raise tax rates on the rich. on-line shopping, a very big winner and very big for retailers. 13% better than last year overall. today, on-line sales may run close to 2 billion dollars. will it last through the holidays? we've got another north african economy in absolute chaos. egypt torn by rioting after morsi takes dictatorial powers. they really need our money now. watch out, everybody, "varney & company" is about to begin. get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement peopl who are paid on sary, not commission. they'll get st
of the fiscal cliff. i don't know whether we can count on them to do it or not, but they're working on it. and we have the whole team reassembles here today. peter ogburn. >> hey. >> bill: good to you see. dan henning has been here. >> i been here man. >> bill: checking in on the phones and siprion bolling been here the whole time either. i was in turkey in istanbul. a great, great city. >> i'm going to make the obvious joke that you went to turkey for turkey. >> bill: yes. no turkey. i saw one turkey in the market in a poultry shop in the spice market, a dead turkey so they do exist. but it is a fabulous beautiful, beautiful, city. i have no idea what went on. >> yeah, if you are going to go out of the country like that just clock off. >> bill: well, believe me that's what we family cup finals last night. [ technical difficulties ] >> bill: kongman, jesse jackson, jr. has retired. john stanton will be with us. great lineup today, but first. >> some of the headlines making news on this monday. president obama and his daughter went out on saturday to a block store in arlington, v
tonight teetering on the edge of the fiscal cliff about 36 days to go until fax increases kick in. the white house and congress are playing a high stakes game of let's make a deal. president obama spoke with john boehner this weekend and expressed confidence the deal can't be reached before the deadline. that's what most americans want. in the the latest poll. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should make to each other is to avoid. >> you signed it 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. the world has changed. >> joining me now is the man in the middle of this storm, grover norquist. grover, welcome to you. >> good to be with you. >> you can't comply on the bounty the mutiny has begun: >> it's funny to watch a senator or congressman who got himself elected by promising the citizen of his state that he would go to washington to reform government and not to pay taxes. when the going gets rough he wanted to debt ceiling increase. the same cast of chakts are turns in the homework for the second tyne two years later and there's not a snowball rolling. the
and fiscal cliff fears. >> of course, we're talking about the -- >> fiscal cliff. >> it does cause uncertainty. >> there's a great uncertainty. >> there's always uncertainty. life is uncertain. >> i think it's more of a slope. republicans possibly maybe -- >> growing number of republicans. >> looking to make a deal. >> and they would like one pretty quick. >> some top republicans suggest they could shock horror. >> the mythical grover norquist. >> break with their sacred pledge. >> to grover norquist. ♪ another one bites the dust >> nobody's turning on me. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. >> nobody's turning on me. >> it is not about that pledge. >> nobody's turning on me. >> it really is about trying to solve problems. >> i'm sorry, that's just silly. >> grover norquist is not jesus. >> he can't burn down your house. >> we would highlight whose kept their commitment. >> this guy's a political lone shark. >> nobody's turning on me. >> i will violate the pledge. >> nobody's turning on me. ♪ >> with 36 days until the curve, republicans on fox news say their party is in chaos a
. if we grew at 4 percent we would not have the so-called fiscal cliff. >>neil: what do you think of grover norquist and the easy fix? >>guest: i think he has done a great service to the country in getting so men people to take a pledge because this is some pressure on the people, now to go back on their word and there should be pressure because it is the wong thing to do so grover norquist and americans for tax reform, i worked with him for 15 years getting the state letters to sign the pledge, and it holds people's feet to the fire and to sign this, if they go back on their word they will suffer the repercussions next election. >>neil: thank you, senator. if republicans telling grover is over are making senator harry reid happy, should that make you worry? who better to ask than grover? tonight, on fox business network. you don't get it? demand it. you don't want to miss this. >> steer clear of the cliff, gouge them at the pump? get ready for real road rage. >>neil: i am headed off to the city of angels. the ladies can't wait. >> so crazy it is here. >> my heart is pounding. >>
the economy going over the fiscal cliff. no mystery what the issues areu. the democrats know, republicans know and so does president obama. entitlements are pushing the country toward financial ruin. here is what the president said in 2010. >> the major driver of the long-term liabilities is medicare, medicaid and healthcare spending. nothing comes close. social security we could probably fix the same way tip o'neil and ronald reagan sat down together and we could figure something out. that is manageable. medicare and medicaid, massive problems down the road. that's where, that is what our children have to worry about. >> dana: here we are, two years later and still no plan. on the left in congress refusing to deal with that simple reality. vermont senator bernie sanders caucuses with the democrats. take a listen. >> i get nervous when i hear the president and others continue to talk about quote/unquote, entitlement reform. which is just another cut for medicaid and medicare and social security. >> eric: brian, start with you, today. >> dana: you look surprised. >> brian: i am. yet honored. >>
politics. the fiscal cliff debate shifts to capital-campaign style tactics. the president planning to hit the road to tout his tax plan. i will speak with lobbyist grover norquist and senator dick durbin about what hangs in the balance next. >>> a small town governor stood up to violence and vowed to keep fighting, but now her dead body has been found. her story when "ac 360" continues. >>> if you department get enough of campaign 2012, stay tuned. we learn that the president will push plan to raise taxes on income above a quarter million dollars a year. he'll be speaking friday at a factory in pennsylvania. some republicans are hinting to limiting deductions even if it means breaking the pledge that the lobbyist grover norquist has been lobbying against for years. joining us now to talk about it all, grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform. grover, thanks very much for coming in. >> good to be with you. >> the trend we're seeing now from members of congress questioning or pushing back on the pledge. we've seen it before to a certain degree, but we're seeing a lot more of i
? 35 days left till we reach the fiscal cliff. and a couple of key republicans are now suggesting that they're willing to forego their no tax pledge to try to get a budget deal done and avoid massive tax hikes, and spending cuts that will come in the new year. brand-new cnn/orc poll shows that is, in fact, affecting the american people. 68% say they believe falling off the fiscal cliff could trigger major problems for the country, maybe even a crisis. brings us to dan lothian at the white house this morning. dan, good morning. senate goes back to work this afternoon. the house will return tomorrow. what could really be done by lame duck congress? >> well, look, the hope is that there will be some kind of compromise here, because as you pointed out most americans believe that if there is no agreement there really could be a crisis here. so you are seeing some softening from republicans who took that no tax pledge back to 1986. first it was saxby chambliss. now south carolina republican senator lindsey graham. take a listen. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we sh
all, he's trying to reach a bipartisan deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> right. look, i would be surprised if the president put her forward given everything that we've seen. there were one or two scenarios, right? either she was, this was a tryout for her and she failed, or it was the case that they sent her out on purpose as the president suggested when he said they sent out susan rice who, quote, had nothing to do with benghazi. gregg: right. >> they sent her out on purpose to basically do little other than to mouth administration talking points. in either case, she comes out of those five appearances looking like she doesn't know what she was talking about in the best case scenario, or she was being dishonest in the worst case scenario. gregg: but, steve, look, here's the deal, do republicans really want this fight over secretary of state? time magazine made the following point, we'll put it up on the screen: gregg: the optics favor the white house. >> look, who cares about the optics? if she went out and told a story which wasn't true, which everybody now can see, you have
two opposing views on how to avert the so-called fiscal cliff from representatives tom price and keith ellison. >> brown: then, president obama sat down with mexico's president-elect, enrique pena nieto, this afternoon. one topic for them and for us tonight: the war on drugs, on both sides of the border. >> suarez: as lawmakers talk of reducing the country's debt, paul solman offers a history lesson on centuries of federal borrowing. >> the united states was going into default. we defaulted on many obligations to foreign creditors and to our own soldiers. >> brown: plus, every month, 1,000 young americans are infected with h.i.v., and most of those with the disease don't even know they have it. hari sreenivasan looks at a new report from the c.d.c. that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st century. and with the ongoi
. but now with the fiscal cliff looming, lawmakers who were once staunchly against raising revenues seem to be changing their tone a little bit. and grover norquist's influence may be fading fast. >> fewer and fewer people are signing this pledge. >> the pledge is dead. >> i'm not saying it's dead but i am saying the majority of members of congress see the fiscal cliff we want to sit down and we want to get something worked out. >> if you appropriate some of the money you achieved by eliminating deductions and loopholes to the national debt, even though that may technically violate the pledge, sign me up. that's a reasonable accommodation for a republican to make. >> jennifer: for the record, that was senators john mccain and lindsey graham so the question is this grover norquist's last stand? here with an answer is donnie fowler. donnie of course, democratic strategist and great political operative. welcome back into "the war room." is it grover norquist's last stand? >> we can only hope. look, i think republic
of the nation's top ceos, to lawmakers about the fiscal cliff. ceo of goldman sachs says what's in this deal is less important than just getting a deal done. >> going over the fiscal cliff, it will be very bad, hugely negative for the stock market, which is, you know, a source of people's wealth. people will feel poor. if we go over for a short period of time and adjust it, we can repair some of those things. but what you won't repair is people's attitudes towards the united states as a responsible debtor. >> washington playing with fire? >> yes. yes, washington is playing with fire. and you don't get -- it's not like a football game when you get the two-minute warning. they don't tell you when you have -- you only get one more chance. >> let's bring in robert, republican strategist and richa richard, a strategist. good morning to you, guys. he said if the retirement age goes up, it is secondary to getting an actual deal. so what does that say? i'll give that to you, richard, first. >> look, business leaders have actually been very strong in a balanced approach. some revenue, some entitlemen
's numbers are up, hopefully that helps moving into the negotiations about the fiscal cliff and all else. essentially the message in washington, we need to see a little bit of progress. >>> former governor jeb bush met yesterday with former staffers near the white house where he reportedly entertained questions about his political future. >> huh. >> according to "the national review," governor bush sat down with a number of veteran florida operatives along with mitt romney's campaign pollster. the article says mr. bush, quote, remained coy about making a run for the white house. instead deflecting the focus toward his efforts on educational reform. >> and the question is -- richard, the drudge report had the headline bush iii. are americans going to -- regardless of how qualified he is. are they going to be turned off by possibly electing a bush when you have history of bush for eight years, clinton for eight years, obama for eight years, another bush when there was actually, you know -- well, wait, bush, clinton, bush, obama, bush. >> that's probably due for another obama. i think bush
of the cut the democrats are willing to offer in the fiscal cliff negotiations. he said, "we need to get credit for cuts previously made." this is today. the cut previously made. i'm scratching my head to figure out what cuts the democrats made prior that they want credit for. if they did make credit cuts why did we run up four more years in a row? start fresh right now. talk about cuts and then talk about how are we going to raise revenues. >> eric: what would -- >> dana: what would harry reid mean by that? get credit on cuts they made. on what? >> bob: that is a $60,000 question. i'm not sure what he is talking about. but i know there will be cuts if entitlement program. readjust in the the entitlement program. there will be a tax increase on the wealthier americans of some size. i cannot believe that obama is going to travel around the country to make us think about this. if he doesn't think he will get them to go along with some marginal increase rates. >> dana: good point. let's get your take on that. president off campaign trail and major victory in the 2012 election. now he will g
are now focusing on house republicans as talks to avoid going over that so-called fiscal cliff are picking up steam. joining me now, mark halperin, senior political analyst for "time" and msnbc and ruth marcus, columnist and editorial writer for the "washington post." to you, mark, what is your read about what we've been hearing the last couple of days about grover norquist, the pledge and how much running room the speaker does have to b negotiating a deal. >> i did a spit take with my fruity pebbles watching "morning joe" because eric cantor's tone was unlike anything i've ever heard. his office is saying oh, no, he's against raising marginal rates, but it's clear that in the scheme of things, the biggest piece is does john boehner have enough running room to strike a deal involving some new revenue. i still am of the belief that the vote in the house, which will be a cliff hanger no matter what happens amongst the leaders in the white house, it will be a tough vote. i think it will be a democratic buildup than a republican buildup. but there's no doubt that if eric cantor is willing to a
as the fiscal cliff, quickly approaching both sides seem to think of a way to push for the deal they want is to take their case to the american public. today, the white house announced the president will travel to a manufacturing facility in pennsylvania on friday for campaign-style event designed to boost public support for a package that includes tax rate increases for the wealthy. not to be outdone speaker boehner announced that house republicans would be making similar appearances across the country, going to small businesses to speak about the "threat to jobs posed by congressional democrats" small business tax hike. while members of congress plan to take their case to the american people, the afl-cio is planning to take the american people to members of congress sending 33 local union leaders to capitol hill to push members of congress to let the bush tax cuts expire and leave social security untouched. one positive to emerge from negotiations so far has been that for the first time in recent memory, republicans have
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